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Questions and Answers:
Page THREE
Antibodies
Frequently asked Antibody Questions

Q1: Our vaccinated child has 'inadequate titers', what do we do?
Our child has until now had the full series of recommended vaccinations. Instead of giving booster shots at age 5, we have first had our child tested for blood titers. As you can see from the following results, fully half of the titers are less than what is believed to give immunity.
Titers Test Results: [As forwarded by a parent.]
Immune to Rubella at 104 (greater than 15 shows immunity). Mumps - tests show .76, less than .9 is not immune.
Not immune to Hepb, less than 10 mill. Pertussis - not immune, less than 5
IgG required 40 for immunity, tests show child's level is 5 IgA required 10 for immunity, tests show child's level is at 1
IgM required 5 for immunity, show at 2 DPT, not immune
Tetnus - immune Varicella - not immune

Why are so many of the titers inadequate? What do we do now?

The answer which follows is essentially non technical, but covers the basics for understanding the problem.

We suggest you print the wonderful pamphlet:
DISPELLING VACCINATION MYTHS:
widely available, one source is:
Myths

Also read: WHY VACCINES DON'T WORK, found at:
http://www.vaccinationdebate.com/web4.html

Neil Z. Millers book, "Are Vaccines really Safe and Effective?" is a great gift.

In the meantime, think about the following:

1. THE CHILD IS TODAY IMMUNE TO ALL THE DISEASES ON YOUR LIST.

Evidence: the child does not have the clinical signs of any of the diseases. Antibodies are NOT the key to immunity. Even mainstream immune system theory recognizes that antibodies are a very small part of a large and complex 'total body health'. Only the 'sales force' sticks with antibody theory and measurements for selling vaccines. Forget antibody measurements. (Vaccines do not succeed because the body makes 'antibodies', vaccines do not fail because the body 'cleans out' the contamination (antigens) which are the vaccine ingredients. Vaccines FAIL because immunity has little or nothing to do with antibodies, and because immunity comes only from total body health not some extremely small part of the body. [I.E. antibodies]

2. THE CHILD IS EXPOSED EVERY DAY TO MANY 'GERMS OF DISEASE', NOT NECESSARILY TO ANY 'DISEASE CAUSING GERMS'.

Micro-organisms are not the primary cause of infectious diseases, some even argue virus are no part of the cause, rather it is certain that the primary cause of disease is the necessity that the chemistry of the body must be unbalanced or polluted for 'unfriendly' virus to have an environment in which to grow. If one keeps the chemistry of the body in balance and internally clean (detoxified), then the body will not need to conduct an 'acute, beneficial healing episode' commonly known as disease symptoms. If the body does need to detoxify, the process will be safe and the outcome beneficial if the child has adequate internal nutritional support.

3. HEALTHY CHILDREN DO NOT NEED ANYTHING BEYOND WHAT THEY ALREADY HAVE.
UNHEALTHY CHILDREN NEED SOMETHING TO BRING THE BODY INTO BALANCE OR ELIMINATE AN EXCESS.

That 'something needed' is frequently vitamin A or C, may be love or rest or recreation, may be challenge or acceptance, may be patience or courage, but no one has ever successfully proven that any child has ever benefited from an injection of rotting matter combined with nerve and brain destroying poisons, the actual ingredients of vaccines.

Hopefully, your family will understand that choosing not to vaccinate is the best approach. Remember, vaccination is an 'elective procedure' and it is wise to thoroughly study the subject before submitting to what is an actual superstition which lacks scientific proof. Please get information from those who have studied both sides of the issue, taken time to digest the information, and who are free of any Money, Power, or Prestige motives in a conflict of interest regarding the answer.

*Links to any of the above, including the book, may be found on our index page:
http://www.vaclib.org/indexdoc.htm


Measurement of Titers

The use of ratios
HL7 v2.3 defined the data type "structured numeric" (SN) for various purposes. Among those purposes was to cater the need to express ratios that often occur as titers in laboratory medicine. A titer is the maximal dissolution at which an analyte can still be detected. Typical values of titers are: "1:32", "1:64", 1:128", etc. Powers of 1/2 or 1/10 are common. Sometimes titer results are written inconsistently as ratio or only as the denominator. Nevertheless, these are rational numbers. Although mathematically, rational numbers are exact, titers are a result of a measurement process, that can never be exact.

Read the rest of the article at:
http://aurora.rg.iupui.edu/v3dt/minutes19981130.html

Read more about 'titers', ratio, and lack of immunity from a couple veterinarian sites:
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Titers: What do they tell us?

From: http://www.caberfeidh.com/Titers.htm

Titers: What do they tell us?   [Selected quotes only...]
By Christie Keith
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A "titer" is a measurement of how much antibody to a certain virus (or other antigen) is circulating in the blood at that moment. Titers are usually expressed in a ratio, which is how many times they could dilute the blood until they couldn't find antibodies anymore. So let's say they could dilute it two times only and then they didn't find anymore, that would be a titer of 1:2. If they could dilute it a thousand times before they couldn't find any antibody, then that would be a titer of 1:1000.

A titer test does not and cannot measure immunity, because immunity to specific viruses is reliant not on antibodies, but on memory cells, which we have no way to measure. Memory cells are what prompt the immune system to create antibodies and dispatch them to an infection caused by the virus it "remembers." Memory cells don't need "reminders" in the form of re-vaccination to keep producing antibodies. [**]
(Science, 1999; "Immune system's memory does not need reminders.") If the animal recently encountered the virus, their level of antibody might be quite high, but that doesn't mean they are more immune than an animal with a lower titer.

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So what does a low or zero titer tell you? Nothing much. A high titer is strongly correlated with either recent infection or good immunity, but the opposite isn't true. You can use a titer test about two weeks after vaccination to determine if the vaccination was effective in stimulating an immune response (in other words, if the animal was successfully immunized from the vaccine), but testing that same animal's titer years down the road doesn't really tell you anything new.

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Read rest of this article on source site: http://www.caberfeidh.com/Titers.htm

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More on Titers and animals    [Selected quotes only...]
Source: http://www.woodhavenlabs.com/vaccines.html

As to titers: A zero titer doesn't mean a previously vaccinated adult dog is no longer immune. That is because titers measure circulating antibody, and dogs (and humans!) don't need circulating antibody to be immune to something. Immunity comes from "memory cells," which we have no way to measure. It is the memory cells that tell the body to form the antibodies when a previously encountered virus re-infects the body. [**]

(Science 1999;286:1377-1381, 1381-1383. "Immune system's memory does not need reminders.") If the animal recently encountered the virus, their level of antibody might be quite high, but that doesn't mean they are more immune than an animal with a zero titer.

One of the most interesting things I have learned is that evidence is now showing that repeating vaccinations doesn't "boost" immunity at all. All our habits of making sure pregnant bitches are recently vaccinated so they will have lots of immunity to pass on, worrying about "fading" immunity in adult dogs, or whatever our concerns, are not based on scientific reality. Re-vaccinating an already-immune animal has little or no benefit; the previous immunity will act like maternal antibody and inactivate the vaccine, and immunity is not "boosted" at all. So you have all the risks of the vaccination, and no benefit. (Schultz, R.D. "Current and Future Canine and Feline Vaccination Programs." Vet Med 3: No. 3, 233-254, 1998.)

Read rest of article at: http://www.woodhavenlabs.com/vaccines.html

[**] Are any vaccinations necessary?

[**] [Immunity does not come from 'memory cells'. Although 'memory cells' may play a small part in the very much larger processes of health. If a person is healthy, first time natural exposure to a virus does not necessarily result in disease. In fact, the majority of first time exposures result in no symptoms but do result in 'antibodies' which 'prove the exposure' but also prove that immunity was present before the exposure. Total body health is the only true immunity. The concept that immunity comes from 'memory cells' is none-the-less valuable in that it points out that booster shots are totally unnecessary, a definate step in the right direction toward understanding the fallacy of vaccination. Understanding that total health equals immunity is a basic key to understanding that vaccinations are unnecessary and ineffective.]

Links to offsite sources of 'Antibody' information

Do Antibodies equal immunity? Whale.to site

Herd Immunity Flawed theory/new name for an old goddess? [Scandals]